tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1338612245455097792.post6704364168891081722..comments2023-09-11T10:45:49.957-07:00Comments on Honduras Culture and Politics: International Vote of Confidence(?) in Honduran Human RightsRAJhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00097415587406899236noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1338612245455097792.post-80311616776382203292012-03-24T08:56:52.787-07:002012-03-24T08:56:52.787-07:00Every so often someone tries to post a comment on ...Every so often someone tries to post a comment on a very old post. In some cases, the content of the comment is related to the old post. More often, the person seems to have picked a random old post, but is clearly reacting to a contemporary post.<br /><br />That happened today with the comment we cut and paste below. Our reasons for going to the trouble of transferring it here are three:<br /><br />(1) the person repeats the "big lie" used to justify the 2009 coup: the claim that on June 28, 2009 a non-binding survey of the public on the question of whether they wanted a question on the November ballot about whether to convene a Constitutional Assembly was an "auto-coup" that would have magically installed a dictatorship headed by José Manuel Zelaya Rosales. Watch for a resurgence of this kind of rhetoric now that the Libre party has been formed and indicated that its candidate will be Xiomara Castro de Zelaya.<br /><br />(Part of that claim is always the liberal use of the word "Chavista".)<br /><br />So for the record: what happened on June 28, 2009 was a coup. The fact that the entire international community condemned it is not the sign of a cross-ideology international conspiracy. It is a sign that coups so blatant are obvious to governments of all stripes.<br /><br />(2) the idea that the militarization of policing will help Hondurans is now pretty clearly debunked. Adding people untrained in civilian policing into volatile situations ensures escalation of violence.<br /><br />(3) the claim that the "international community" is "poisonous" for national communities, if it were offered in the context of a less clearly rabid and fact-resistant context, might be worth debate. The universal condemnation of the 2009 coup was morally encouraging, but translated into action, was ineffective-- in large part because the US government, the largest player, engaged in ambiguous and equivocal statements and actions. The OAS struggled to do something as well. But what has not been ineffective are the various human rights organizations that have ensured that continued violations of rights are not invisible to the comfortable people who would like to think the coup ended and everything is now fine. <br /><br /><i>trutherator said...<br /><br /> Whatever one may say about the proposal by the Honduran military, the opinion of the so-called "international community" is a poisonous potion for all the "national communities" of the world. Note that the "international community" called it a "coup" when Honduras stopped Manuel Zelaya's auto-coup in its tracks and tried to get Honduras to kill its constitution with a Chavista one.<br /><br /> As if Honduras needed even more poverty and lawlessness. "International community" is building an international dictatorship.<br /><br /> Yep, even Cuba and North Korea condemned the "anti-democratic" so-called "coup". Do the math.</i>RAJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00097415587406899236noreply@blogger.com